I dont think you should have to go and make your own tranny brace to be able to run your RC, it shouldve been corrected before i bought it.
I agree, it should have been corrected before the producion trucks were released. I was just pointing out that it has been addressed on the new production trucks and that there is a fix for the older versions.
Believe me I've gone through it all with this truck and Brett can attest to that. I was one of the first paying customers to receive one last year and all the problems people have had, I've had, and usually first. But in the end I still believe this is a great truck. For a little over the price of the stock Clod kit(which is just a roller unless you want to count the msc) you get a truck with an aluminum chassis, aluminum links, aluminum oil filled shocks, esc, 3-channel radio, battery, wall charger, and a relatively tough drivetrain that can hold up to moderate brushless power. Yes, there are weak points and even the new v.3 will have the same weak housings the earlier models had but overall you'd have to put a lot of money into a Wheely King or Clod to get some of the stuff that comes stock on a Ground Pounder.
And remember even a stock Clod has weak points. I've broken anti rotation brackets and tubes in a matter of minutes with the truck running stock motors. And the aluminum pinions wear fast and eat up the internal gears if you don't know enough to replace them.
From all of the research I've been doing and comparisons between all the electric solid axle trucks...The trans problem sprung up when people started modding the power. People are throwing in high end motors and that's how this problem came about. It's the same thing with ANYTHING. If you mod it...you break it. I was all sorts of worried about axle breakage. But they ALL have that problem. The Clods axles are probably the weakest but hold up decently because of the braces. When I put an E-MAXX setup on my TXT-1 I constantly had to replace the gear set in the trans...sometimes 2 per week if I was driving it daily.
Now here's why I'm going to go with the Ground Pounder. Tamiya NEVER fixed the known problems with the Clod...Juggernaut...or TXT-1 monster trucks. Only thing they did is release a faulty trans with the Juggernaut...had to redesign it entirly...then sell it off as the "juggernaut 2", which was STILL troublesome. Tamiya never addressed it.
Brett (the creator) of the GP truck has been doing research himself. By watching what problems people are having on RCMT.NET, and FIXING THEM!!
Now replacing the axle tubes on the clod is pricey...and a pain in the ***....the GP replacement axle housings are 5 bucks!!! Make a Clod like brace for them and you wont break them.
Another point I have to make about the GP is its cost. It's only $250.00 man. The Clodbuster by itself...with 25 year old technology, kit form....no radio....no battery or charger....$220.00
Juggernaut was discontinued because Tamiya didn't "feel" like dealing with it....
TXT-1 was build...which could also be called the Juggernaut 3 but they decided NOT to go with that name...Major trans problems...axle breakage...same ol same ol....comes in kit form...no radio...25 year old technology....$430.00
Brett's Ground Pounder comes with dual servo front and rear steering with selectable steering...esc...anodized alluminum EVERYTHING....big name truck body and decals....battery pack and charger!!!! <----that don't happen...PLUSSSSSSSS it's RTR!!!
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How can you complain about it? You can go to his site and purchase the V3 chassis WITH the added trans brace....for something like 25 bucks??
Now I completely understand the frusterations of buying an R/C truck or car and having it break....What people NEED to understand with R/C is that if you mod power...you need to mod the driveline as well. And if it takes a **** pop cycle stick with a screw in it to hold it up...so be it. To get a Clod to handle and do what this thing could dollar for dollar the GP is the BESSTT BUY. I priced out both projects...Clod came out to around 1200 bucks, GP came in just shy of 800.
Brett backs up his products and continues to devolop them, but if you mod the truck it's kind of out of his reach. But because he knows everyone does modify them...He watches what's happening, and makes parts to fix...or actually fixes the problem. You can't ask for a better R/C truck builder...or a better R/C truck...not for the money...
The new Tamiya 2wd racing buggy has a weak idler gear out of the box - is that purpose-built racing machine junk as well? Tamiya has released a stronger part, but I guess that isn't good enough for you either?
When any company enters a new segment of the hobby (for Brett, designing a truck from the ground up) there are bound to be hiccups and unforseen problems once the product hits the market. Brett has done a fantastic job of supporting his project and making sure that customers get the best out of their equipment possible.
Have I lost a spur gear in the truck? Sure - I had a first gen truck but after the shorter motor mount was installed, I didn't have any problems with the teeth chirping. If anyone expects a rc vehicle to work flawlessly every time, under any driving conditions, then they are sadly mistaken.
I'll wrap up by mentioning Traxxas - they started out by making some of the crappiest vehicles ever made. One of these vehicles, the Wildcat, was even recalled and pulled from shelves and there is probably less than 500 of them are out there. Judging by this and other companies' starts in the industry, I'd say Brett has a very bright future ahead of him since he's already a bit ahead of the curve.
Matt Stoltz
2013 schedule - Youngstown, OH, Fayette Fair, Charlotte MTC, others TBA
I'd also like to point out to the guys that were mentioning the advantage the GP has over the other box stock solid axle trucks.
You are INCREDIBLY correct...it's a MUCH lighter truck than the other box stockers. Isn't that the point??? Isn't technology SUPPOSED to move forward???
Me personally...I'm really tired of people bashing on new technology....new technology is ALWAYS going to happen. ALWAYS!! Brett just proved that the truck does NOT need to over priced...all plastic (minus jugg and txt, but even still its just the chassis plates that are alluminum....and BUILT IN JAPAN.
You guys say you want to see an extremely modded GP go against an extremely modded TXT or Clod?? THOSE ARE NOT TXT'S AND CLODS!!!! just the axles/gear cases are...absolutly NOTHING else is Tamiya built...and Bretts custom chassis for race trucks are championship winning products.
His box stock GP is also championship winning.....Tamiyas service SUCKS...Bretts is awesome...
Now before you guys go and hand me my *** on the fact that I'm saying this...Ive owned 3 Clods, a Bullhead, a txt-1, a juggernaut 2, a Kyosho USA-1, a Kyosho Mad Force or whatever that POS was...A Savage SS4.6, E-MAXX and a Tamiya TLT-1. I currently own a losi mini LST and a Clod with a blue annodized ESP lift kit and EVERY SINGLE plastic part is the classic CCP (custom chrome parts) from wheel adapters to the radio tray and EVERYTHING in between. Shocks, Chassis...gearboxes...name it. Don't act like I don't know where I'm coming from. Don't act like I've never raced them before...and DON'T act like I've never broke them either. I run my **** HARD and those Tamiya's and HPI's....Traxxas and KYOSHO trucks are CERTAINLY not bullet proof.
You guys got beat by the newest thing out there....and that's just the fact. Why you guys are not welcoming this truck I'll never know. But I'm sure you will eventually. ESPECIALLY knowing that Tamiya has never fixed weak parts unless it was a total disaster...Brett fixes his truck so you CAN mod them...and have it handle those mods...I'll never go back to tamyia as long as Bretts building electric solid axle trucks.
Another note to you Clod guys...notice how people are now using the GP chassis on their race Clods....So seriously guys. What now??
matt does know how to drive, dont forget about that.
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I never said he didn't....I never said anything bad about anyone in this thread....Just saying they should try this newer technology is all...instead of bashing it.
Just an FYI, the issue with the Jugg 1 was the gears in the axles were not strong enough, which was fixed for the Jugg 2. The tranny in both of them is the same.
No doubt the Ground Pounder is a great vehicle, unfortunately with the reputation RedCat has with some of their other vehicles some may be scared of it.
Red Cat didn't design this truck...Crawford Performance Engineering did...Red Cat just....produces it? I guess you could say....Correct me if I'm wrong Brett.
As for the Jugg...you're right...I was thinking it was the trans but you're correct it WAS the axles. It's still a gear stripper though....My TXT (same Jugg trans and axles) had an E-MAXX setup (14.4v) with Monster MAXX Wild motors...and 3000mah trinity batteries. I could NOT keep a gear set in that truck....if my life depended on it.
Originally Posted by ChromeThunder
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