Monster Truck Wheelie Record

RnW 13

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For the person who made the comment on Aces High Wheely record, that was a 700 foot "ASSISTED" Wheely, which means because it had that wheely bar extention on the back it was assisted. While Lindseys was pure power and didnt drag the bar at all.
 

Beerman1

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For the person who made the comment on Aces High Wheely record, that was a 700 foot "ASSISTED" Wheely, which means because it had that wheely bar extention on the back it was assisted. While Lindseys was pure power and didnt drag the bar at all.
see cales post on page 1...he already said that
 

BiteMeStudios

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For the person who made the comment on Aces High Wheely record, that was a 700 foot "ASSISTED" Wheely, which means because it had that wheely bar extention on the back it was assisted. While Lindseys was pure power and didnt drag the bar at all.
I was that person, and I was well aware of that. I wasn't comparing it to the others, as there is none, I was just curious how far it was. Looks like you covered that (700ft). Thanks!

***EDIT: Cale, why would I not like you for pointing out the truth? I totally agree with you.
 
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Smasha

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wheelies

Here is a question for you guys. Do you prefer wheelies very slow or fast?
I think the best wheelies are the ones which defy gravity almost
like when it looks like the front wheels are coming down then you power in and hold them there. I also like the precarious walking wheelies when you rock from side to side. Fast wheelies are good because they look better and cover more distance, but I think the real skill is in a slow one that is also long.
 

theace27

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For the person who made the comment on Aces High Wheely record, that was a 700 foot "ASSISTED" Wheely, which means because it had that wheely bar extention on the back it was assisted. While Lindseys was pure power and didnt drag the bar at all.
How the heck did I miss this thread?? hahaha. Anyway the longest wheelstand that Jake Henke ever performed in Aces High was actually well over 700 feet in distance. 740 feet seems to ring a bell in my mind. This was not one of the wheelstands that was performed during the opening of the Mint 400 race in Vegas. As far as the "ASSISTED" wheelie comment Aces High had the engine in the stock location for a 1972 El Camino, just 6 inches lower which didn't help in the weight transfer department. True Aces High had a weight box in the back but I would still consider a wheelstand from it as valid, in fact more impressive due to the fact that Jake didn't have a plexiglass floor to look out of. He only used radio contact and his view out the side window of the truck to get an idea where he was headed.

This is gonna get a bit off track from the longest wheelie question but since I am talking about Aces High doing wheelies, back in around 1987 Jake was paid to bring the truck out to Fresno California to do some shows. I guess in Fresno or at least back then they had a big market in the downtown area and pretty much this market got super busy during the weekends. One of the streets had been blocked off and had a police escort to get Jake down to the market area to display the truck. On this blocked off street Jake was doing a series of wheelstands when a guy decided it was ok to ignore the barricades and drove his brand new Buick out onto the road. Don't ask me how this guy could have not seen what was going on or how you couldn't see a massive El Camino coming towards you but.... Jake not being able to see the passenger side of the truck didn't notice the guy pull out of a alleyway out onto the road.. CRUNCH... Jake flattened the nose of this brand new car like a pancake. Luckly Jake was not at a real high speed and was able to keep the truck up right and under control. The police who were there as escorts once everything was under control thought it was a pretty funny thing to add to their "On the job I have seen" stories.
 

rocku

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Wheelies

O.k so they are not records, but still kind of cool!!


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqG2YlYgILg"]YouTube - Monster Trucks Longview, WA 2006[/ame]



Mike
 

Don

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I got to ask how it can be more impressive when it is just using a different set of four wheels to run on the ground and is balanced to do so, We had a mini monster setup to do the same thing and you could wheele it till it ran out of gas. No talent required. I would have thought there record would have been a few miles. Anyway I don't mean to be rude but I don't think it can really be compaired. One way requires a sence of balance and throttle control and the other just relyes on graviity to do the work.
Don
 

theace27

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I got to ask how it can be more impressive when it is just using a different set of four wheels to run on the ground and is balanced to do so, We had a mini monster setup to do the same thing and you could wheele it till it ran out of gas. No talent required. I would have thought there record would have been a few miles. Anyway I don't mean to be rude but I don't think it can really be compaired. One way requires a sence of balance and throttle control and the other just relyes on graviity to do the work.
Don
How can it be more impressive?? Imagine doing a wheelstand in a 15,000 pound steel bodied Monster Truck nearly blindfolded. Aces High didn't have a window in the floor of it to see where you were going. Doing the wheelstand was the easy part but how about driving the truck a good distance and not being able to see where you are going. Then imagine doing it in a arena with the house lights turned off and what you could actually see was now darkness. It isn't the same thing as doing it in a mini monster it did require talent. I could hold a wheelie up on my bike when I was a kid but I wasn't about to head out and challenge Bill Maverick Golden to a stand off. It isn't like the wheelies wheels did the steering of the truck either, they were just there for the truck to ride on. Gravity isn't doing all the work, you still gotta be good enough to keep the truck under control. How do you feel about drag race wheelstanders?? They are set up to do long distance wheelstands on their skid pad, are those guys relying on gravity to do all the work? I don't think so. Don't get me wrong I am not trying to take anything away from Lindsey but at least when he is doing wheelstands he can see where he is going.

This would be what Jake would see during a wheelstand. Seems impressive to me.
 

Cale Putnam

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Ace, but all that driving skill had nothing to do with keeping the front end in the air. He had the weight box to do that, and the truck would just roll on the wheelie bar.

Linsey's wheelies require throttle control to keep the truck balance on it's back tires - which is the whole crux of a wheelie record, which in my mind is more impressive. It's a display of power and knowing when to use it. What Jake used to do was cool, no doubt, but I think his lack of vision does not make it more challenging (specifically because I would think that the officials knew to keep the area clear where he'd be doing it, and to line him up straight).
 

BiteMeStudios

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How about this...they are both impressive for two totally different reasons. We are comparing apples to pitchforks here.

To elaborate...

On one hand, you have a 15,000lb steel bodied work of art, with a front mounted, small block motor and uncut tires doing a blind 700 foot wheel stand. This was with the aid of a weight system and with a wheelie bar. Let us not forget that this truck was/is a true work of art. This may not have required the perfect throttle control, but it did require nerves of steel, not to mention a great risk to a one-of-a-kind show piece.

On the other hand, you have a 9,000lb, mid/rear engined 1750hp, fiberglass bodied, tube chassis'd machine with clear floorboards providing decent vision and well cut tires, but with no weight help and no bar. This required perfect throttle control and skill, but with little risk if the truck crashed, as one could hardly consider an fiberglass body to be an irreplaceable show piece work of art.

See...first hand=apple, second hand=pitchfork...no comparison because they are not comparable.
 
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theace27

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That was well put Colby. My whole deal from the first time I saw Aces High and fell in love with it was cause it was infact a wheelstander. Same reason why I love the Hurst Hemi Under Glass, Little Red Wagon, L.A. Dart etc etc. Probably why I built myself a Dodge A-100

Probably why I worked for Bob Riggle for awhile. Anyway we are not compairing the same thing as Colby stated, regardless any wheelie is cool in my book. How come no one has commented on my Aces High story?? :( hahahaha

Oh one other thing, the Jeep video WICKED!! Reverse wheelstands... I love it!! The Jeeps aren't around anymore right??
 
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Don

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First off I do not want to change the direction of this topic to weather or not the person in this video should be driving or weather it's safe. I do think he should have a helmit on. For all we know there may be no other vechiles around for 100 miles. Maybe it's fake. But regardless this shows throttle control in a wheele. It's a little off topic but impressive. I found it while looking at the monster jerky pro comp truck in the dunes. I was done with this post but because someone asked I will have to say I was never really impressed with the wheelstander drag cars after about 12 years old for the same reason I mentioned in another post about specality pullers. They were built to do just what they are doing at a safe and predictable speed. I have seen hundreds of videos of them and they always go perfectly down the track everytime.
As for the monster vs aces high wheele thing you mention visabality
Most monsters today do have lexan floors but they do not help much in a wheele as most guys are using a Hans device and can not see much more than what is in front of them or the sky. A little out the side window is normaly what I use to judge distance. Back in aces high day they could turn there head to see, was driving from the left side of the truck and I would almost bet with there head out the window if I remember correctly.
I say it's not very impressive because I know that if you placed it in a open field where nothing could get in his way there is no reason it could not go for miles. If it could not do so all you would need to do is add more weight as thats what it was built for.

Anyway enjoy this wheele but lets keep the comments to monsters only.
Don
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFnf17cp3Eg&feature=related"]YouTube - Kid does awesome sandrail wheelie at Glamis Dunes.[/ame]
 

BiteMeStudios

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Thanks for the insight, Don. I appreciate it. I didn't consider the HANS device when talking about visibility, and it makes perfect sense. As Mike said, Jake Henke was performing these wheelies on streets (it was the 1980's...so please no one mention safety) and in arenas/stadiums. But Don's comments add another twist to this interesting topic. It is absolutely true that in an open field, Ace's High could have gone on forever. I just feel that the fact that he was the first one doing it (assisted or not) puts him in the running for wheelie records, as there was no precedent for what he was doing.
 

theace27

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They were built to do just what they are doing at a safe and predictable speed. I have seen hundreds of videos of them and they always go perfectly down the track everytime.

Anyway enjoy this wheele but lets keep the comments to monsters only.
Don
I am gonna ignore the monster only comment and say you need to maybe have a sit down with someone who has done long distance wheelstands in the drag race world and I bet the stories you would hear you would not make a comment like "always go perfectly down the track everytime". Those guys are busy as heck making it look like it is effortless and making spectors think they go down the track perfectly. I would hardly call the speeds they reach as predictable.

I am not going to convince you and you are not going to convince me. We both have diffrent opinions. I agree both sides of this thread to be impressive lets just leave it at that. Colby put it into a good prespective for both sides. Done.
 

green monster man

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hey biteme do you have battle of the monster trucks if so clud you tack some photos of the funny car pullers and put thme on here. aces high dose a pritty good wheel stand
 

BiteMeStudios

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I actually have the Ace's High wheelie from that tape in one of my highlight clips on YouTube. Be patient, but I have a YouTube account featuring pulling and mud runs in the works...as well as a new school monster trucks account.
 

grossman05

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actually theres a video on i think streetfire of a wheelstander flipping several times. im gonna try and dig it up. if i find it ill post it.
 
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